4 comments on “Immigration creates a hub of global networks

  1. from http://www.economist.com/node/15954498/comments#comments
    bradshsi wrote:
    Apr 23rd 2010 4:10 GMT

    The_Prof, actually it is far easier and shorter for a US citizen to live, work (and become a citizen of) an EU country, than it is for an EU citizen to achieve the same status in the USA.

    For a self proclaimed “nation of immigrants”, I can tell you quite frankly your immigration laws, processes and enforcement are in turn: ineffective, inhumane, byzantine, evil and moronic.

    My concern about overly restrictive immigration policies is this : Currently we have a medicore US schools system that delivers v poor value for money in terms of providing a stream of students properly educated in maths and science.

    I recently hired someone for an expert position in CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics). The position required a near PHD or equivalent experience. In the 6 months we had the post advertised not one of the suitable candidates was US born. All were recent immigrants.

    Now my management philosophy is “Everyone tries, nobody quits”, and consequently I don’t care if you are from Timbuktu or Toledo as long as you are competent. However I was v surprised that I could not find even one home grown US person that qualified. I guess they are all off getting medicore MBAs so they can manage each other’s economic stagnation and decline.

  2. http://www.economist.com/node/15954498/comments#comments
    bradshsi wrote:
    Apr 27th 2010 3:53 GMT

    CaliforniaRodent wrote: “bradshsi fails to point out that he probably was paying way lower than the standard rate for an American qualified in the field, so that only those desperate to come to America would accept such a low rate…It is hard to believe that Americans are just too stupid to be fluent in CFD”

    Don’t speculate to support your own prejudices. I was offering an above average pay rate for the position, which with bonus was over 6 figures. We check all our salary grades against the Bureau of Labor Statistics data to ensure we are being fair to our existing employees (The vast majority of whom are US citizens).

    I also don’t think it is a case that Americans are “stupid”. But certainly educational standards in the USA are below average when it comes to math and science (as confirmed in OECD PISA testing. Considering the money spent on education in this country that is a spectacularly bad deal.

    I’m not an educator nor a social scientist so I can’t tell you if the problem is due to teaching methods or lack of enthusiasm by the children or something else. What I can tell you is that if you don’t teach people the skills, I don’t see why I should be expected to hire them just because they are citizens. I’m going to hire the best person for the job because mediocrity is not an option.

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